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        <![CDATA[ I&#39;m about to write up my first novel.  It&#39;s something that I attempted once, but the end product came out shitty.  I&#39;m rewriting my first novel, I
guess you could say.  Anyone have any advice for me? 


I already have an outline and storyboard for it.
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Need Advice/Comments/Etc ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As I have said many times, &quot;Be true to the reality you create.&quot; If you want people to buy what you are writing then it must hold to the truth of its
own existence-the sky should stay purple or blue if that&#39;s it. The people or beings true to their nature. Like Scotty said, &quot;You cannot change the
laws of physics,&quot; as they apply to your created world.
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Also, if to sounds too familiar than it likely is. Beware of falling into stereotypical plot situations and... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Frank Menser)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Above all, ignore MY advice.
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Or, better yet, run counter to it.
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<br>
Just as soon as I have any to offer.
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The above isn&#39;t advice so much as admonition, and definitely not to be ignored!
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<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ And here&#39;s me thinking you Americans didn&#39;t do irony. ;-) ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Gary Mc)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ But...but, Gary--doesn&#39;t that mean he has to ignore YOUR advice, too? (Smiley)
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T.M. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here&#39;s my advice: ignore everyone&#39;s advice and just write. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Shocklines wrote:</strong>
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  I&#39;m not a writer, but I&#39;ll say this:
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  <br>
  Don&#39;t worry about writing what you think the industry wants. Write the best book you can, and worry about the industry later.
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This is great advice, too.  Meant to be taken to heart.
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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Lawrence Dagstine)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I just KNOW I&#39;m gonna get flamed for this advice but...
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Ignore EVERYTHING you ever learned in school or from writing groups or wherever EXCEPT the fundmentals of grammar and sentence structure. You have to keep
those in mind or you&#39;ll end up with hard-to-read gibberish.
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Then, write the thing because you NEED to.... either you have a passion for the story or an impulse to &quot;say&quot; something or a love for a character,
etc.  Don&#39;t worry about it being any good.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve just finished planning out my first novel so my advice would be similar to Steve&#39;s but first - loads of research, perhaps months of it, get to
know the characters and what form you want the novel to take. Sort out the dramatic structure. Get the plot written out chapter wise - getting the bare bones
of it down. Then go back and expand it, layering it and weave threads/sub plots into it. 
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One thing I&#39;ve learnt is that you can plan it as much as you want (you do need... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ A couple of things to remember:
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YOU are the first and most important reader of your novel: it must entertain YOU--if it doesn&#39;t,
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at any point in the process, try to figure out why.
<br>
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Yes, writing is rewriting.
<br>
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Do not give a draft that pleases you,to someone who loves you, for a critique. Give it to someone
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who can be fair and candid. And try to find more than one such person to read it.
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Lots and lots of novels get written every year. Few of... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">MichaelKnost wrote:</strong>
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  I always thought this was great writing advice:
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  <br>
  &quot;I try to leave out the parts that people skip.&quot; ~ Elmore Leonard
</blockquote>I agree.  GREAT writing advice.
<br>
<br>
  ~~~
<br>
<br>
So I stayed up until two in the morning and finished a rough draft for a first chapter.  My aim is to finish each chapter until I&#39;m done and then go back
and edit, rather than finishing a chapter and... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m not a writer, but I&#39;ll say this:
<br>
<br>
Don&#39;t worry about writing what you think the industry wants. Write the best book you can, and worry about the industry later. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I always thought this was great writing advice:
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&quot;I try to leave out the parts that people skip.&quot; ~ Elmore Leonard ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ And have fun with it!! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve actually have it spelled out in a three act structure. It took me a while to get the actual story arc carved into this story outline. That&#39;s the
biggest problem with the earlier draft. No arc. Was minus an arc. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I really do feel my characters. As cheesy as it sounds, I feel like I know them personally. I could sit and have a beer with my protagonist. I would probably
run if I met my antagonist. I can feel their dread, their intensity, their passion.
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Cheesy to say, I know. Stop rolling your eyes! ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:43:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The three-act structure does work quite well, or you can use the old vocational &quot;Plot Formula&quot; technique. Describe your story, synopsis/novel project
and all in two to three long paragraphs, beginning, middle, and end, and work from that, only in expanded form. ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Lawrence Dagstine)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:28:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ My advice: keep it simple, use a tight three-act structure. Eliminate the unnecessary. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Why was it &quot;shitty&quot;?
<br>
<br>
It was terribly disjointed. I didn&#39;t have a plan, just scenes that I liked and tried to force together. Ever try to shove a puzzle piece where it
doesn&#39;t belong? Felt like that. I didn&#39;t have a story board. For the longest time, I refused to outline anything, thinking that I was a mastermind and
would just create gold somehow without a plan of action. I still go all maverick sometimes, but I&#39;ve learned the value of planning. Some things... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:13:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As for your characters, research them and BECOME them, the same way an actor studies a character before playing the part in a movie. ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Lawrence Dagstine)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Why did the original come out &quot;shitty&quot;? Can you identify what was lacking?
<br>
<br>
Most first drafts are just bare bone structure, upon which you&#39;ll need to refine the quality. In my extremely limited experience, most writers would need
to rake over the coals of their first draft. Don&#39;t let that worry you. Just concentrate on improving. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m about to write up my first novel.  It&#39;s something that I attempted once, but the end product came out shitty.  I&#39;m rewriting my first novel, I
guess you could say.  Anyone have any advice for me? 
<br>
<br>
I already have an outline and storyboard for it.
<br> ]]></description>

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