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Weirdmonger	Assisted Death	Lead	[-]
Posts: 746 (06/16/09 01:11:40) Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	People in UK need to go to a Swiss Clinic in order to end their life in an assisted way. Even so, it is still legally dubious if anyone who travels wih you is then liable for offences when returning to the UK. I was wondering, when our own world is ready to die (and some believe this is overdue), perhaps it will needs to visit the CERN Hadron Collider that is also in Switzerland! Silly Idea - The Baser Pulps - Nemonymous - The Weirdmonger Wheel - Themed Quotations from DFL - Weirdmonger (Prime Book 2003) The Top Tier Shockliner Demon previously known as DF Lewis
Weirdmonger		#1	[-]
Posts: 747 (06/16/09 06:34:49) Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wonder if it is relevant, in this context, that Switzerland has been neutral in various wars? Silly Idea - The Baser Pulps - Nemonymous - The Weirdmonger Wheel - Themed Quotations from DFL - Weirdmonger (Prime Book 2003) The Top Tier Shockliner Demon previously known as DF Lewis
Karen Koehler		#2	[-]
Posts: 2291 (06/17/09 02:55:03) Shocklineraholic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It might not make me popular, but I genuinely believe that if, medically, you are beyond all possible hope and in pain and suffering for your dignity, that, yes, that option should be open to you, and that doctors (who are trained and qualified) should help their patients to move on as painlessly as possible. I can't imagine the horror of being forced to stay alive through medication/machines while in pain. as opposed to mental problems associated with suicide, of course. I'm sure, though, someone would abuse the system. The Covenhouse
dogpoet		#3	[-]
Posts: 5500 (06/17/09 03:51:48) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't think Switzerland's neutrality is very relevant to this, Des. I'm with Karen: I find the fact that the government think this is any of their business completely repulsive. Please buy my book, somebody?
Nemonymous		#4	[-]
Posts: 1303 (06/17/09 07:05:58) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	dogpoet wrote: I don't think Switzerland's neutrality is very relevant to this, Des. I don't know. It was just an instinct that I can't explain. It seems appropriate that a country that is famous for its neutrality is also famous for peacefully 'assisting deaths'. SIDESHOW: Also Top Tier Shockliner Demon: DF Lewis and Shockliner: Weirdmonger
Karen Koehler		#5	[-]
Posts: 2292 (06/17/09 07:53:21) Shocklineraholic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think Switzerland is just very liberal. The Covenhouse
AdamB		#6	[-]
Posts: 669 (06/17/09 08:04:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Karen Koehler wrote: It might not make me popular, but I genuinely believe that if, medically, you are beyond all possible hope and in pain and suffering for your dignity, that, yes, that option should be open to you, and that doctors (who are trained and qualified) should help their patients to move on as painlessly as possible. I can't imagine the horror of being forced to stay alive through medication/machines while in pain. as opposed to mental problems associated with suicide, of course. I'm sure, though, someone would abuse the system. Hell, I'd go further than that. Even if you're not terminally ill, but are of a sound mind and whatnot, and you want to die, then I'm all for having some sort of service whereby you can do so painlessly.
lokilokust		#7	[-]
Posts: 3448 (06/17/09 08:42:17) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	AdamB wrote: Karen Koehler wrote: It might not make me popular, but I genuinely believe that if, medically, you are beyond all possible hope and in pain and suffering for your dignity, that, yes, that option should be open to you, and that doctors (who are trained and qualified) should help their patients to move on as painlessly as possible. I can't imagine the horror of being forced to stay alive through medication/machines while in pain. as opposed to mental problems associated with suicide, of course. I'm sure, though, someone would abuse the system. Hell, I'd go further than that. Even if you're not terminally ill, but are of a sound mind and whatnot, and you want to die, then I'm all for having some sort of service whereby you can do so painlessly. agreed. yrs. in exile, -s.j. bagley
dogpoet		#8	[-]
Posts: 5502 (06/17/09 10:29:50) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nemonymous wrote: dogpoet wrote: I don't think Switzerland's neutrality is very relevant to this, Des. I don't know. It was just an instinct that I can't explain. It seems appropriate that a country that is famous for its neutrality is also famous for peacefully 'assisting deaths'. Fair enough. I just can't see the connection myself. (Now the fact that Switzerland is -besides those daft montblanc pens and the cuckooo clock- best known for banking seems a lot more germane to wartime neutrality.) Actually, on that level what's the national religion in Switzerland? Presumably it's not a Catholic country like Germany or France (where otherwise they would be doing assisted suicides, one hopes.) Please buy my book, somebody?
JamesRobertSmith		#9	[-]
Posts: 1781 (06/17/09 12:02:20) Master Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Anyone who is in great physical pain with no hope of effective treatment should be allowed to end their lives with the aid of a wiling physician. In every political community there are varying shades of political opinion.One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times. Ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.--Phil Ochs
Stephen Bacon		#10	[-]
Posts: 1137 (06/17/09 13:00:28) Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	No wonder the Swiss remain neutral - their army must be rubbish. Have you seen the size of their knives? Useless at killing the enemy, but they can get stones out of a horse's shoe. www.stephenbacon.co.uk
Laird Barron		#11	[-]
Posts: 220 (06/17/09 13:31:06) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Beyond the question of dignity and ending one's suffering, there is also the matter of crushing debt acquired by prolonging a hopeless situation. I would never leave my wife ruined in the face of my certain demise. http://imago1.livejournal.com/
dogpoet		#12	[-]
Posts: 5509 (06/17/09 13:31:16) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It was quite usefully for cavalry troops when they invented the thing. Please buy my book, somebody?
Stephen Bacon		#13	[-]
Posts: 1138 (06/17/09 13:49:02) Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I know. I'm just being flippant. Suicide is a weird thing. I think assisted death probably goes on a lot more than many of us realise. I say this with the experience of seeing my dad - who died last year - spend most of his life in and out of hospital at various stages. www.stephenbacon.co.uk
JStrnad		#14	[-]
Posts: 1 (06/18/09 07:46:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	One of my worst fears is being incapacitated and ready to die, but being unable to take that step because of paralysis or somesuch. Jan
nkalanta		#15	[-]
Posts: 14082 (06/18/09 08:18:57) Queen of Horror World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Phil and I have living wills and the agreement that when it's over, it's over. We refuse to line the pockets of the greedy corporations that have taken over healthcare in this country. There is no way in hell, that if I or Phil is terminal, that we will lose what we worked for all of our lives. Like Horror? Visit Horror World
JerrodBalzer		#16	[-]
Posts: 3560 (06/18/09 08:33:11) Keeper of Tootsie Pops Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	We need some of these: http://jerrodbalzer.wordpress.com/

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