I hated the monkey scene. I loved the fridge scene. Basically, I'll always take MacGyver-unbelievablility anytime over pure luck unbelievability. I can buy
Harrison Ford pulling escapes out of his ass using unlikely tools and situations even if they defy science (after all, this is a wonky adventure series). But
the stuff with the monkeys, where they just happen to do exactly what is needed to foil the bad guys, makes me groan. At least the groundhogs didn't gang
up and attack Cate Blanchett.
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Posts: 1243 (05/25/08 10:33:52) Shocklineraholic |
I caught Karen Allen on Good Morning America last week. Apparently she left the business in order to spend as much time as possible with her son as he was
growing up. She gave theater a go in New York, but found it to be even more time consuming than film acting. Sounded like she doesn't regret her choices a
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Posts: 720 (05/25/08 10:34:47) Master Shockliner |
Matt, wait for the extended cut -- Lucas's Special Edition (featuring 20% less drama, 50% more digital effects, a jigsaw version of Williams' score,
and a special appearance by a CG Denholm Elliott!).
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Posts: 733 (05/25/08 10:43:01) Master Shockliner |
I'd give the eye-rolling to the monkeys and the motorcycle chase. But really, the whole thing was a pastiche, wasn't it? Mix National Treasure with
some gross CGI bugs and exploding people from The Mummy, and voila!
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Posts: 28046 (05/25/08 10:57:16) Administrator |
Yeah I read several interviews with Karen Allen, and it just makes me like her more. And while the next installment will undoubtedly focus on Shia Lebeauf,
I'd love to see it focus on her just as much. Without her, I think I would give the new volume a C or C+, but she was such a joy to watch.
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Posts: 1351 (05/25/08 11:16:36) Shocklineraholic |
As a huge fan of the series let me just say this movie sucked balls. It's quite possibly Spielberg's WORST film. I love Indiana Jones...all three of
the first movies...but I can't classify this as Indiana Jones. It was a lame adventure movie with Harrison Ford. It was just so BAD.
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Posts: 1352 (05/25/08 11:56:30) Shocklineraholic |
BTW..I thought this was interesting (from Harrisonfordweb.com):
"The ideology committee of the communist party in St. Petersburg, Russia is unhappy with Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. So unhappy they've written an open letter calling for boycott of the film and naming Harrison Ford and Cate Blanchett 'capitalist puppets'. The letter addresses Harrison Ford directly: "Your work in this film is an insult to the Soviet and Russian people, who remember the difficult Fifties when our country was concluding its reconstruction after the Great War, but did not send merciless terrorists to the USA." The letter says that Russians had loved Ford in previous serious roles - which include a Soviet submarine commander in K-19: The Widowmaker - but continues: "You have no future in Russia any more. Speaking plainly, it is better for you not to come here. You will be beaten and despised" The leader of the St. Petersburg Communist Party, Mr. Sergei Malinkovich, echoes the displeasure: "Our moviegoers are teenagers who are unaware of what happened in 1957. They will go to the cinema and will be sure that in 1957 we made trouble for the United States and almost started a nuclear war. It's rubbish." Comments from party members on the party's website are also acid. As far as we know, no official statement or comment has been issued by the national Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the leader, Mr. Gennady Zyuganov. The CPRF is the second biggest party in the Russian national assembly (the Duma)"
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Posts: 1962 (05/25/08 16:16:13) Shocklineraholic |
I'd say Hook is Spielberg's worst film, but that's just me. And yeah, I like 1941 and The Lost World. As for the new Indiana Jones film, I thought it quite enjoyable,
though I have the feeling it's not going to earn new fans who would want to see the earlier films, though I hope they would.
SPOILERS! SPOILERS! I also have a few problems with a lot of the scenes others have mentioned here, but in general, what I thought was interesting, if not always successful, was how it felt a bit different to me: not just a pastiche of the 30s serials but of 50s pop culture as well. Maybe it tried to do too much in that regard, but pretty fun viewing anyway. (My wife loves all that Roswell/Area 51 stuff, so she got a really big boost when it turned out to be about that.) On a minor note, my biggest fear about the film was Shia LaBoeuf--I can't spell his name--but he wasn't so bad here. And I did like the ending, because it made me feel like it wasn't about passing down the heritage to Mutt. That was what I feared in the earlier scenes when Indiana seemed to be presented--to me anyway--as out of place in the world of the 50s. |
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Posts: 2897 (05/28/08 00:59:58) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
Has anyone read James Rollins' novelisation yet? Should I pick it up?
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I just saw this, and as a big fan of the original films - like many here I went to see Raiders at the cinema as a youngster - I have to say I was a little
disappointed. It wasn't bad, but for me it lacked much of the suspense and sense of mystery that the other films had. The whole film was like one long,
rambling actions scene - it was as though they were intent on squeezing as many stunts and chases into it as possible, and making each scenario more outrageous
than the last. A few scenes were over the top in a really silly, cartoonish way, and really detracted from the movie as a whole. The other films had quiet
scenes in between the action that served to build suspense and strengthen the plot and characterisation; these moments helped create a really special
atmosphere. Sadly, this film lacked these moments, to a large extent.
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Posts: 1120 (05/28/08 05:43:23) Veteran Shockliner |
Matthew Craig wrote: I've read about half of it, and it's pretty good. It has a few cool parts that didn't make it into the final movie. It also fleshes out the back story a little more. |
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Posts: 2898 (05/28/08 06:22:25) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
Cool. Thanks Tomo!
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I've heard so many opinions, from outside this message board, from "good" to "sucks". No one I know has said it was great, including
me, and I LOVE Indiana Jones. It just didn't have the same "feel" as the originals. Less banter and quiet interaction between characters, for
one. Relied too much on the action, less on the strength of the characters. Overall, a bit disappointing, but hell, an average Indy Jones movie is still way
above a lot of the stuff out there. As far as Ford being too old? Hell, I hope I'm in half that shape in 23 years.
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Nobody's commented on the real stars of the movie yet: the gophers.
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Posts: 1355 (05/28/08 12:19:19) Shocklineraholic |
Nobody's commented on the real stars of the movie yet: the gophers
And the monkeys...I don't think I've seen a review yet that doesn't talk about the monkeys
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