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 cmichaelcook |
AFI Snubs Horror in Its "10 Best in 10 Classic Genres" |
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Posts: 13 (06/18/08 09:28:05) |
Sad day for horror lovers. The American Film Institute has completely ignored the horror genre in its "10 Best in 10" line-up.
Worse, there aren't too many horror films included in any of the other categories, either. Full list is available at http://www.afi.com/10top10/
CMICHAELCOOK
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Posts: 607 (06/18/08 09:46:37) Master Shockliner |
Weird. And why "Romantic Comedy" at the expense of just plain comedy?
Anyway... Dawn of the Dead (original, natch) Jacob's Ladder Psycho Night of the Demon The Thing (remake) Night of the Living Dead (original) Cannibal Holocaust The Innocents The Exorcist The Brood ...there, that wasn't too hard, was it, ya big bunch of "Film Institute" fancypants? |
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Posts: 14 (06/18/08 10:06:46) |
And why three crime-related genres: courtroom drama, gangster and mystery? Seems like two of these could have been
combined to make room for horror.
CMICHAELCOOK
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Posts: 15 (06/18/08 10:10:16) |
Yeah, um, horror isn't "classic", or something, um, it isn't like there was any silent horror films in the early 1900's or anything... Nope. Nothing "classic" about horror at all. No siree, Bob. pffft. When was the first "Sports" movie? Yes, there have been some "classic" films with a sport theme (I would call most of them DRAMAs though). At least Sci Fi ("Clockwork Orange" and "Alien" and "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" included) and Fantasy ("King Kong" included) are in there. |
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Posts: 3365 (06/18/08 10:19:22) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
You could argue that Clockwork, Alien, Invasion, and Kong are all horror.
How about Nosferatu? Frankenstein, or any of the other big 4 Universal horror films?
JG Faherty
www.jgfaherty.com 'Everyone has a monster inside.' "Bones," in Cemetery Dance #58 (available now) "The Toll" and "Hybrids" in Wrong World, www.wrongworld.com (available now) "Experimental Subject," in Bits of the Dead "Family First," in Dark Territories |
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Posts: 2888 (06/18/08 10:56:30) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
I wouldn't be surprised if horror gets mentioned in a future AFI special.
No particular order: The Haunting (Robert Wise dir.) The Silence of the Lambs Night of the Living Dead (original) The Cat People (original) The Thing From Another World (Nyby/Hawks dir.) Halloween The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney) Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978 [think that's right]) Bride of Frankenstein The Black Cat (1934) Randy M. (I dropped both Nosferatu and Night of the Demon because I suddenly remembered the list is supposed to be of American-made movies) |
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Posts: 272 (06/18/08 11:36:08) Veteran Shockliner |
My Little Tirade Against the AFI:
From the Epic List - #3 Schindler's List - "The true story of Oskar Schindler, a German businessman who saved several Jews from concentration camps during WWII." Several? SEVERAL? Who the fuck is writing this shit? He saved over a THOUSAND Jewish people from the Holocaust! #5 Spartacus - "During the last century of the Roman Empire's rule, thousands are born enslaved to either the privileged class known as patricians..." Hey shitheads...Spartacus takes place during the last century of the Roman REPUBLIC. The Empire would last for another 500+ years. PLUS, your "Epic" list includes shite like Reds (**) and Titanic, but neglects Braveheart, Gladiator, and Doctor Zhivago?? Romantic Comedies - No Jerry MaGuire? Blasphemy. (*) Annie Hall? Really? That's what you came up with? Who actually watched that movie? Like, a few Manhattenites and some wanna-be's? Really? Westerns - You're shitting me, right? None of the following movies are on the list: Hang 'Em High Tombstone The Outlaw Josey Wales A Fistful of Dollars Mysteries - A little better, but David Mamet should be represented somewhere... Courtroom Drama - Motherfuckers got no love for John Grisham? A Time to Kill perhaps? Sci-Fi - You put Star Wars at number 2? Bullshit posturing. (*) I see now that they put it in Sports...but still...It's not really a Sports movie, per se...and neither is Caddyshack, though I love the fact that it somehow made the list. (**) Note the special AFI salute to talentless hack Warren Beatty on the upper left hand side of the website. Obviously, they felt the need to throw him a bone. I'm surprised they didn't put Dick Tracy in the Gangster movie section. Why don't you just stick your tongue straight down the back of his trousers, Neil? 
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Stephen Bacon |
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Posts: 313 (06/18/08 11:56:35) Shockliner |
Bryon, you had me at "tirade".
All good points, very well made. |
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gfaherty |
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Posts: 3368 (06/18/08 12:25:17) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
But tell us how you really feel.
JG Faherty
www.jgfaherty.com 'Everyone has a monster inside.' "Bones," in Cemetery Dance #58 (available now) "The Toll" and "Hybrids" in Wrong World, www.wrongworld.com (available now) "Experimental Subject," in Bits of the Dead "Family First," in Dark Territories |
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Posts: 3257 (06/18/08 12:39:12) Top-Tier Shockliner Demon |
At least they have The Searchers, Byron: that's something.
(2001 as the best SF film ever though? Fuck that noise.) |
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Posts: 133 (06/18/08 12:52:11) Shockliner |
Under the Fantasy genre AFI listed It's A Wonderful Life and Miracle on 34th Street. These are classics, yes, but classic fantasy films?
Not the first titles that come to my mind, at any rate. And the fantasy element in the latter movie is debatable.
"Lightning Rod"
in Horror: The Best of the Year, 2008 (Prime Books, July 2008)
"Dry Places" in The Age of Blood and Snow (Morrigan Books, December 2008) BOUND FOR EVIL: Curious Tales of Books Gone Bad "Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the library." |
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Posts: 1233 (06/18/08 12:54:41) Shocklineraholic |
Well, they also don't have action/adventure or musical. I'm sure this is the first of a series of Top 10 In Genre lists.
--Jeff Visit my website at http://www.jeffstrand.com. Now, punk!!! |
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Posts: 579 (06/18/08 13:33:15) Veteran Shockliner |
I think horror was well represented here. Ten would just be a weak repeat after
that.
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Chairman Slim |
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Posts: 609 (06/18/08 21:26:32) Master Shockliner |
BryonMorrigan wrote:People with decent taste in movies would be my first guess. But yeah, clearly it doesn't have the timeless appeal of, say, a Jerry Maguire. 
Seriously, whatever quibbles I might have with the AFI's decisions here, most of your suggested improvements are mind-bogglingly bad, to put it kindly. Tombstone one of the ten best westerns ever? Gladiator? A Time to Kill? Star Wars over 2001? Shit, I'm still laughing about Tombstone. |
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Lawrence Dagstine |
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Posts: 793 (06/18/08 22:18:33) Veteran Shockliner |
Chairman Slim wrote: Hey, why Paranormal Romance these days instead of supernatural/erotic horror? Lawrence p.s.: Alien would be more of a horror flick (or horrific SF, along with THE THING remake), in my opinion. I hate Jacob's Ladder to this day and don't find it to be horrific in the least. It's drama, experimental, plain and simple.
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BryonMorrigan |
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Posts: 273 (06/18/08 22:50:57) Veteran Shockliner |
Chairman Slim wrote:
I see that you are unfamiliar with my brand of comedic ranting. My posts are much funnier if you read them as if David Spade were narrating. Come on
though, Val Kilmer in Tombstone was hilarious. And any movie with at least two Aliens alums (Paxton and Biehn) is an
instant classic, regardless of the merit of the film. I originally only was going to comment of the blatant historical inaccuracies in the movie descriptions
that I discussed at the beginning of the post, but then decided to get silly...which is what usually happens
whenever I post to Shocklines.
Your Huckleberry, Bryon "Are You Not Entertained?" Morrigan P.S.Annie Hall still sucks!
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Posts: 408 (06/19/08 04:16:25) Veteran Shockliner |
I almost threw up when I read the "Top Ten Western." Total farce. At least Wildbunch and Searchers is in there.
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