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marksamuels |
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I always respond to rejections by thanking the editor for having taken the time to consider my story. If they don't like my being courteous they can fuck
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rileybooks |
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I have never ever responded to a rejection. I really fail to see why anyone should feel compelled to do so. The rejection itself should surely have been the
end of things. To respond would seem to be wasting an editor's time in my view. They would probably have even forgotten about the story concerned. My only
interest by that stage would be in where to send the story next.
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marksamuels wrote: I've stopped replying to what appear to be form letters, but if it seems like a personal reply, I thank them. It just feels right to thank the editor for not only taking the time to read the story but to also give a personal note--nomatter how short--despite their busy schedule. My schedule gets very busy too; still, I also appreciate courtesy. I think now I'll just have to put the "thanks" in the subject line so they know it's just a thank you and can just delete it without opening it if want to. It makes sense that some would like to have their clogged inboxes clear for submissions and other important e-mails. If there's time taken to show me some courtesy by giving an honest personal response, I don't feel right just ignoring that. But for editors that make it clear they don't like to receive "thank you" replies, that's different--they don't want them so there's no point in sending them. EDIT: It might even be considered sort of rude if they specifically say that don't want a reply and one is sent anyway!
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Qusoor |
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All my personal rejections get a polite request for permission to go up on my blog. So far, both have said yes. Both editors are people I would work with
again, they were polite and competent.
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess" |
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Gary Mc |
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"they were polite and competent."
And damned with faint praise... :-)
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In most cases, all I "need" is a yes or a no.
In some cases I want more than that. But editors are busy folk who read tons of stuff. It's quite enough that they consider one's work at all.
The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of
credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality. - George Bernard Shaw
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LeatherZebra |
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I respond when I receive an email rejection that's gone beyond in trying to comment. I know that some editors/agents get people who throw fits at them, and
I want them to know that I really do appreciate it when they take the time to offer suggestion and comments.
Or if I know the person. |
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lcrisler |
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I usually thank the editor for their time at the end of the story's cover letter, as well, so I don't write back to thank the editor after being
rejected. Every so often, if the editor's dialogue warrants a response, I'll write back. I sent a robot story to Apex and something Mari said seemed to
warrant a response, so we passed something like... one or two additional emails. Professional courtesy, yanno? I'll absolutely send something else her way
when I write something Apex might be a suitable market for. But yeah, starting a running dialogue with every editor that writes you off? Tres creepy.
When I was reading for OSS1 I had one guy that seriously made me question my 'personal rejections' policy. I rejected his work, offered some serious criticism and he wrote back blustering about how he'd been writing longer than I (and he was right) and had been published more (probably 200 times more, unless he was bullshitting), etc. I wrote back and told him that if he had sent one of those other stories he might have gotten in, but this one wasn't right for me. Who am I to lecture someone like that, right? But on the other hand, how has he written that much over that long a period and not figured out that rejecting a story doesn't mean anything personal. There's no reason for an attack. When I get a rejection, I know my work is solid. Maybe the editor will give me some good advice, but usually by the time I send out a story, it's salable. I just need to hit the sweet spot; find the right market. Every writer reading this thread probably has me beat on number of publications, but my batting average is great; every story I've finished and subbed out has gotten published at least once (with the exception of two, both of which are still being shopped around). I do find it very rewarding to work with other writers as an editor; I'd like to think I handle my projects a bit differently from other editors, but that might be all in my head. I turned down work from an author... told him it would be a waste to send me this short story when a little work could turn it into a novel. Funny thing is, he wrote back and said it WAS part of a longer piece, but he thought it'd work as a standalone as well. I told him otherwise, and he submitted another piece that worked a LOT better, and now he's part of Our Shadows Soar. Another thing that gives me a warm fuzzy... I rejected this kickass story about a woman becoming romantically involved with a demon. The only mistake the author made was assuming that demon = horror, which is not necessarily true. So I wrote her back and recommended a couple places, and got a response from her a couple weeks later that someone else had picked up the story. And about half the stories in OSS1, the authors and I had a bit of give and take on certain points of the stories and I asked for revisions. If I'm ever so strapped for time that I can't have that relationship with my writers as an editor, I'll stop editing. It won't be good for me after that. |
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I used to thank editors for rejections, then I stopped to think about what I was doing and concluded that it seemed a bit funny to be grateful for having my
hopes dashed.
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dogpoet |
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I've always found "I really like this/you're a really good writer but..." rejection letters a trifle irksome (particularly when the
"but..." doesn't provide any indication of why the story was rejected if they liked it so much). At least a "your story was shit: fuck
off," rejection gives some hint of what the problem was.
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Qusoor |
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Gary Mc wrote: If they were looking for enormous walls of praise from me, they would have bought my stories.
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess" |
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dogpoet |
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If they were looking for enormous walls of praise from me, they would have bought my stories. Word. |
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I expect a yes or a no.
If I get more than that I figure the story was strong enough to warrant a personal response. I certainly don't expect a personal response, however. I figure I have to earn it. As for thanking an editor for rejection I sometimes mention it in my next submission but I don't make it a habit to send out "thank you notes" all by themselves. As Nick inferred, the editor's inbox is likely full enough as it is. |
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Personally, I'd rather not receive thank you responses. Best way to show thanks is to comment on your blog (or on a forum) about the nice
response/suggestions/critiques you received from Apex. Those will make an editor love you more than a brief email saying nothing more than "Thanks!"
A nice and sneaky way to make more of a mark in an editor's head is to do what Nick stated earlier: thank the editor for the feedback and such in your next submission. |
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More on topic...information in rejections...Apex sometimes uses form rejections. Our editors aren't required to use them and I'll bet at least half the
time they send some form of personalized response.
I typically will leave feedback pertaining to why I rejected the piece. But really, most of the time the form letter nails why we don't want the story. I'd think this is true in general so if you're a writer I wouldn't let form notices get you down. |
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Shaun Jeffrey |
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Why would I want to thank someone who didn't see my work of genius for what it was
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dogpoet |
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Seriously, does anybody else get these "we like this, but we ain't buying it," rejections?
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Qusoor |
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dogpoet wrote: Yep. Those are the people I go back to. They consider the story wasn't a useless waste of their time, so they see something in my work.
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess" |
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dogpoet |
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the whole "there's nothing wrong with this, but we're still not going to buy it" routine
helpful.
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Steve Vernon Nova Scotia |
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It doesn't always come down to how good or not good a story is, Dogpoet. Sometimes they've bought their quota, or they are looking specifically for a
certain length story to fit a gap in a magazine page count. You might write a wonderful sea story and they just happened to have bought two other sea stories
last week.
Timing, luck and lucky timing play a lot more of a role in this business than folks might care to admit. |
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