I don't agree with Hank on everything, and I have no vested interest in defending him.
However, he's entitled to his views. And I find he's in a minority on these boards. I understand that he can be abrasive but I don't think
there's any real underlying malice in him. So, I'm holding my hand up and saying disagree by all means but don't turn him into the focus for
resentment. He's not a member of the KKK. He's not a card carrying fascist. You may not agree with him but the last time I looked he was a democrat
(with a small "d") like anyone else who abides by the rule of law and the ballot box.
Mark S.
Look, I may not agree with him 100% but...
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Thanks for posting this Mark. We need to make room for everybody here.
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I absolutely ADORE Hank -- especially when he's being all "Hank-like" and serious about something. And since almost everyone likes ME --
because I'm so cute and fluffy -- everyone should know they would make me cry bitter tears of hurt cute and fluffy feelings if anyone DARED to say anything
negative about him. (Well, except for that one time when he wore that shirt where the sleeves were almost dolman! Honestly, Hank, with YOUR shoulders???????
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Eh, I like Hank alright. Most of the time he's fun to argue with.
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Hal, congratulations. You just won the Internet.
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Hank sometimes gets me a bit hot under the collar, but he's certainly a well-read and intelligent person, and I respect him. He's also a pretty damned
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I won the Internet!!!!????!!!
Wow! I'm so excited! One thing I just HAVE to know.... Does it come along with a toaster oven presented to me by Ellen Degeneres? If so, I could die a happy boy! |
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Yeah, but you know what's REALLY irritating about Hank?
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marksamuels wrote: Do you think that those he is abrasive to have just cause to return the favor?
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess" |
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Posts: 1134 (08/11/08 18:01:23) Master Shockliner |
Everyone should be allowed free speech. Even racists who whine constantly about dark people flooding across our borders (boo hoo!).
I'm a firm believer that even very unpopular ideas should be allowed to be voiced. I hold many unpopular ideas myself, and take a lot of grief for them. But the grief should never go beyond someone disagreeing with the idea. I learned from my mom, who was half-Jewish, to beware of scapegoating racists who attack the powerless to promote their own hateful agenda. But even people who employ such a monstrous tactic should not be prevented from speaking their minds. By stooping to their level, you become what they are: monsters.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak;
a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal,
sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. - Richard Dawkins
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VeryUnseemly wrote: That even Pagans are due their rights. Even if their beliefs are unpopular. (That's the way I take it, anyway.)
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak;
a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal,
sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. - Richard Dawkins
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HankTheHorrible wrote: (Snipped and bolded for effect...)
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VeryUnseemly wrote: "You can't tell me that the military ought to recognize people who say they worship Zeus as being part of some legitimate religion and pretend you're being serious. If someone wants to pray to Mars, fine. But I'm sorry, I refuse to be cowtowed by moronic PC nonsense into pretending that ancient Roman mythology is actually a religion deserving of the same deference as all other faiths." http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/sreply/54740/t/OT-The-Inquisition.html I would go further than 'abrasive' here and call this comment 'uncivil.'
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess"
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I don't know if I'm the proper voice to chime in for this one, but I like Hank too. Just as I like Harry. And while I may agree with Hank FAR more than
I agree with Harry, I think both of them, like just about everyone here, comes into discussions with the best of intentions and the honest belief that their
views are not just correct, but represent the best for their country's population as a whole and reflect the views of the majority of rational people.
Obviously, in any situation like that, some people are going to be wrong. But wrong does not mean evil, or the walking embodiment of one or more of the deadly sins, it just means wrong. Not only am I willing to credit most people with whom I disagree with the best of intentions, in my experience most of the time that point of view is borne out over future discussions and physical meetings.
Alien Motives books: www.alienmotives.com
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HalBodner wrote: It's been a long time since I've seen that bumper sticker.
John Goodrich,
My blog: Flawed Diamonds "There's an old Indian proverb that says if you are ever lost, you should sit down and begin to make a curry. Before the water boils for the rice, someone will come out of the forest and tell you you're making it wrong." --Bruce Lierman, "Dutch Mess" |
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Posts: 291 (08/11/08 18:37:34) Shockliner |
JamesRobertSmith wrote: Ah, I see. And right you are.
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