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shineynobuttons		#41	[-]
Posts: 17 (09/09/08 06:37:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Alot of those listed are great... If I may toot my own horn...(and kenwood's) We are in the works on launching a webzine next year called SHOCK TOTEM (yes, I am aware we stole thename from Metzger, but he was cool with it, honest.) We are to be a paying zine, not alot but not too shabbily. We hope to get to professional rate soon after the debut issue. All that jazz in listed within our guidlelines http://www.shocktotem.com I hope this isn't a terrible breach of ettiqutte, but it seemed in line with the topic at hand.
Kenwood		#42	[-]
Posts: 61 (09/09/08 11:13:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yeah, what Shiney said. The website is just a temp site for now. We're launching in July of 2009, so we wanted to get something online before then. There will be a professionally designed website (my skills are very basic, as you can see). As of now there will be alternating bi-weekly updates (so weekly, basically) between fiction and non-fiction. I'm planning a print version as well, but I'm still working on those details. The print version will consist of all the stories and some of the non-fiction that was posted on the site during the previous quarter, plus a few exclusive pieces. There will also be an annual print anthology featuring the previous year's best work plus a few exclusive stories. I'm also exploring the option of having some video (short films or whatever) or a comic, or both. If anyone is interested in writing some non-fiction pieces, reviews or whatever, let me know. I can't promise payment for that sort of thing, but maybe your payment could be free books or DVDs. I've been reviewing music for like 15 years and the free music is payment enough. Either way, watch the site for updates. I should have a test magazine up in a few months. "Happy people have no stories" --Therapy? http://www.shocktotem.com http://www.eyesoretimes.com http://www.getcharocksoff.com Last Edited By: Kenwood 09/09/08 11:15:52. Edited 1 times.
Dean Winters		#43	[-]
Posts: 464 (09/14/08 20:33:11) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	shineynobuttons wrote: Alot of those listed are great... If I may toot my own horn...(and kenwood's) We are in the works on launching a webzine next year called SHOCK TOTEM (yes, I am aware we stole thename from Metzger, but he was cool with it, honest.) We are to be a paying zine, not alot but not too shabbily. We hope to get to professional rate soon after the debut issue. All that jazz in listed within our guidlelines http://www.shocktotem.com I hope this isn't a terrible breach of ettiqutte, but it seemed in line with the topic at hand. Now that looks promising. Any suggestions on any dark fantasy/horror publishers who would either be interested in stories 9-14k words or any who would be interested in running said stories as 3-4 part series? Every publisher I've found who is open for subs has a statement saying either "we are currently closed to short story collection" or "we do not accept short story collection".... If anyone can lead me into a good direction I would be grateful! Thanks. Edited: for typos, i need sleep or coffee one.
Kenwood		#44	[-]
Posts: 80 (09/15/08 10:44:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	We will eventually be looking into publishing novellas and such, but not right away. Novelettes and shorter novellas would get consideration for normal updates, but longer pieces most likely wouldn't work online. Serials are a possibility, too. But I really don't know of many good horror/dark fantasy publications out there, and I've scoured the net this year. Sure, there are a lot of them, but the majority are just terrible. And then there are the sites that haven't been updated in ages. If you happen upon the Blood, Blade & Thruster site (once showing a lot of potential) your PC will either be infected with a virus or your anti-virus software will catch it and give a warning. In this thread alone, probably half--maybe more--of the links are dead. Seems that small press is just a great idea for some. Execution is the thing so many people never think about. Either way, I wish there were more quality horror publications out there. I also wish those that are great publications didn't have so many restrictions. I can understand not wanting stories that involve sexual abuse of children, overt racism, and so on. But no stories about serial killers or zombies or vampires? And the list goes on. Why? I know the reasoning is that it's been done to death, but the reality is that potential readers have not read every story out there. Like music, a great unoriginal song is still a great song. That's what matters. It's extremely hard to come across something entirely original, no matter the medium. What happened to just wanting great stories, whether is about vampires or werewolves or zombies, or whatever? I think I'm blabbing incoherently. Rant over. Haha. "Happy people have no stories" --Therapy? http://www.shocktotem.com http://www.eyesoretimes.com http://www.getcharocksoff.com Last Edited By: Kenwood 09/15/08 10:47:20. Edited 1 times.
Dean Winters		#45	[-]
Posts: 465 (09/15/08 11:23:00) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Kenwood wrote: We will eventually be looking into publishing novellas and such, but not right away. Novelettes and shorter novellas would get consideration for normal updates, but longer pieces most likely wouldn't work online. Serials are a possibility, too. But I really don't know of many good horror/dark fantasy publications out there, and I've scoured the net this year. Sure, there are a lot of them, but the majority are just terrible. And then there are the sites that haven't been updated in ages. If you happen upon the Blood, Blade & Thruster site (once showing a lot of potential) your PC will either be infected with a virus or your anti-virus software will catch it and give a warning. In this thread alone, probably half--maybe more--of the links are dead. Seems that small press is just a great idea for some. Execution is the thing so many people never think about. Either way, I wish there were more quality horror publications out there. I also wish those that are great publications didn't have so many restrictions. I can understand not wanting stories that involve sexual abuse of children, overt racism, and so on. But no stories about serial killers or zombies or vampires? And the list goes on. Why? I know the reasoning is that it's been done to death, but the reality is that potential readers have not read every story out there. Like music, a great unoriginal song is still a great song. That's what matters. It's extremely hard to come across something entirely original, no matter the medium. What happened to just wanting great stories, whether is about vampires or werewolves or zombies, or whatever? I think I'm blabbing incoherently. Rant over. Haha. Actually that was a very good rant. The one thing I completely agree with you on is the restrictions and originality. I've noticed that when a lot of people try to write something original for the sake of it being original it becomes a self-parody, too incoherent or written in such a way that makes lessens it's entertainment value. There are some forumals that I have been done over and over but I think the reason they are done so much is because they work. Zombie stories for instance. People who like to read one zombie story will probably want to read more. Adding to your comparison with music, if I hear a band I like then I immediately seek out other bands in the same genre and style because I can't get enough of it. Some editors say "No more werewolves/vampires/zombies....it's been done before." Yeah? Almost everything has been done before, so what? Last Edited By: Dean Winters 09/15/08 11:41:17. Edited 1 times.
shineynobuttons		#46	[-]
Posts: 32 (09/15/08 13:57:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done there is nothing new under the sun" (ECC 1:9) "Never trust a man who doesn't seem pleased if you pop Back in Black into your cd player. "
Kenwood		#47	[-]
Posts: 157 (10/04/08 22:03:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I made a post over at the NEHW forum and figured some of it is juicy enough to warrant a partial posting here. When we knocked around the idea of creating a dark fantasy/horror publication, we initially intended on strictly being an e-zine with an annual print anthology that included the year's best plus a few exclusive pieces. That will no longer happen. At least in that capacity. The good new is we're now going to be putting out a quarterly digest, similar to Black Gate and the old Apex Digest. A paperback, basically. In addition, we will have bi-weekly updates (fiction or non-fiction) on our website. Neither will overlap; stories on the site and in the digest will be exclusive. We're launching July 1, 2009. We have a lot more planned and we will periodically announce things as we move closer to launch. Everything is in the baby stages right now, but we intend to grow quickly. On a more personal note (even though I copied and pasted this, which makes it rather impersonal), we'd like to thank everyone here that has submitted to us. We've rejected a few of you, but know that we're looking for great stories at the moment, stories that either blow us away or touch upon something unique enough that, though they didn't wow us, they do stand out from the rest of the good stories. And we've had to reject a lot of good stories, unfortunately. Being so far from our launch date, we have to do this. We have no choice, else we'd have too many stories by the time July rolled around. Again, thanks. We really appreciate the support and encouragement we've been getting! Visit us: http://www.shocktotem.com Chat with us: http://www.shocktotem.com/forum.htm "Happy people have no stories" --Therapy? http://www.shocktotem.com (now with forumy goodness) http://www.eyesoretimes.com http://www.getcharocksoff.com
William Sheffield		#48	[-]
Posts: 1410 (10/07/08 08:47:23) Shocklineraholic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Keep us posted, Kenwood! Will myspace.com/wbuddah
shineynobuttons		#49	[-]
Posts: 54 (10/08/08 06:48:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	As my brother Ken stated...we really were not expecting quite the flood of stories we have gotte this early in the game...and really appreciate them all.. lots of good stuff....Thanks! "Never trust a man who doesn't seem pleased if you pop Back in Black into your cd player. "
Kenwood		#50	[-]
Posts: 283 (11/12/08 12:36:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If anyone is interested, Shock Totem is now paying pro rates. Yes, there was a some drama preceding this decision, but I'm happy about it, to be honest. http://www.shocktotem.com/announcement.htm You can read all about it there. "Happy people have no stories" --Therapy? http://www.shocktotem.com (now with forumy goodness) http://www.eyesoretimes.com http://www.getcharocksoff.com
rsmccoy		#51	[-]
Posts: 2 (11/15/08 19:02:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great news on Shock Totem!!
William Sheffield		#52	[-]
Posts: 1452 (11/16/08 23:47:56) Shocklineraholic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll have to send ya something- I got a story in that alley. Will myspace.com/wbuddah
johnpeters2		#53	[-]
Posts: 130 (12/05/08 21:07:55) Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey, this is great! I'm not a frequent visitor here, so somehow I missed when you guys opened up. It's wonderful to see a new market open, and I wish you all the best. I have sent you a story, too! Hope it's one you can use. johnpeters2, still seeking an uber cool signature line.
William Sheffield		#54	[-]
Posts: 1512 (05/14/09 04:07:00) Shocklineraholic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Alright, where are the new markets? Who's still looking for subs? Will myspace.com/wbuddah
Lawrence Dagstine		#55	[-]
Posts: 2645 (05/14/09 20:48:29) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	William Sheffield wrote: Alright, where are the new markets? Who's still looking for subs? Haven't you heard? Genre's on hiatus. It purchased the last ticket to the Bahamas about seven, eight months ago. There is, however, from my understanding a new market of some kind in development. Pays something like 10 or 15 cents per word, last I saw (think it was Facebook). It hasn't been named yet though. Lawrence Dagstine Homepage: www.lawrencedagstine.com Order FRESH BLOOD: http://www.genremall.com/anthologiesr.htm#freshblood Last Edited By: Lawrence Dagstine 06/03/09 10:38:38. Edited 1 times.
Lawrence Dagstine		#56	[-]
Posts: 2799 (06/11/09 00:25:50) Veteran Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll put this here in case anybody's interested; about the new 3 cent per word horror market. http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/11262 Lawrence Dagstine Homepage: www.lawrencedagstine.com Order FRESH BLOOD: http://www.genremall.com/anthologiesr.htm#freshblood
ericenck		#57	[-]
Posts: 303 (11/10/09 06:44:24) Apprentice Shockliner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	SNUFF BOOKS opens to submissions again in December. www.snuffbooks.com Eric Enck's Website

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